From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 22 17:32:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F8616A4A0 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:32:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF5B13C447 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:32:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so924480wra.13 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:32:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.222.21 with SMTP id u21mr4216655wfg.189.1201023122264; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:32:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm9038649wra.23.2008.01.22.09.32.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:32:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:31:49 -0500 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080122123149.05837a85@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20080122125651.V2077@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080122125651.V2077@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q User-Agent: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.3; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/pBldCe39xMWQdnezOVXd.//"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: are we CRIMINALS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:32:05 -0000 --Sig_/pBldCe39xMWQdnezOVXd.// Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:03:27 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > http://www.spamsuite.com/node/351 >=20 > jest first step to criminalize unix at all No really. This case involved an individual who was accessing and acquiring information using falsified credentials for an apparent nefarious purpose. If you have a key making machine, does that give you the right to make a key to my home and then enter it without my permission? It is not the 'tool' that is being addressed here; but rather, what the individual did with it. If this individual believed what he was purported to by doing was legal and above board, then why did he openly commit perjury and use falsified credentials? Quite frankly, it is criminals like him who cause other lawful individuals problems. --=20 Gerard gerard@seibercom.net Using TSO is like kicking a dead whale down the beach. S. C. Johnson --Sig_/pBldCe39xMWQdnezOVXd.// Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkeWKIYACgkQ6DWTaTcTwMmZYQCgmTEbjSOMjxTACEMhOBYK4ZKs Y9MAniWp0ibwKVk0TIbsN7WkRLKQkDff =nd/p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/pBldCe39xMWQdnezOVXd.//--