From owner-freebsd-arch Sun Aug 4 21:19: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF2A37B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4525643E3B for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0507.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.43.252] helo=mindspring.com) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17bZKe-0000Y1-00; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 21:19:01 -0700 Message-ID: <3D4DFC82.74E32063@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 21:18:10 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zak Johnson Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSL vs. -lmd References: <3D498FB4.6987B696@mindspring.com> <20020801195640.GQ26797@madman.nectar.cc> <3D4998F9.A736EA85@mindspring.com> <3D499CF3.4030601@ntlworld.com> <3D49A37B.BA3C2982@mindspring.com> <20020801212004.GC6856@opiate.nox.cx> <3D49AF37.C7E1E272@mindspring.com> <20020802154452.GA25577@opiate.nox.cx> <3D4ACA59.298777B@mindspring.com> <20020803073519.GD47529@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020805031925.GA36422@opiate.nox.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Zak Johnson wrote: > Fair enough. I was wondering why some developer or group of developers > have not yet undertaken to do it. No one will commit the code if it's against -stable, and no one will write the code if it's against -current? ;^). Seriously, I thought I had made this clear: it has a huge impact, and people are incredibly skittish about changes in the areas that would have to be touched. It would also have to arrive fully grown, from Zeus' head, since you would have to change not only the build process, but the install process, too, at the same time, for it to work. That's a heck of an investment of work without pre-buy-in. If someone went to that much effort, and it *wasn't* committed, you are pretty much guaranteed a fork. This is exactly where FreeBSD came from in the first place, relative to 386BSD. So not only is it a lot of work, it's inherently dangerous. > I am interested enough to devote some time to it myself. I imagine, > however, that it would go a bit faster with someone more familiar > with the current packaging system than I am to take the lead. Is > anyone else following this discussion and interested in actually > contributing to such an effort? The current packaging system is not up to the task; that's one of the problems. Read Jordan's message again. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message