From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 30 20:13:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.lewman.org [209.67.240.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E416C37B660 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:13:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deimos@lewman.com) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 798583D34; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lewman.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AD05BC2 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:13:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy X-Sender: deimos@lowrider.lewman.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available . . . . . In-Reply-To: <395CC7A3.BD6F37BF@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > best we can, so it's very frustrating to us when someone sits "on the > outside" and says in effect, "I don't have time to do even the smallest > thing to help you make it better, but I do have time to criticize." I don't consider myself on the outside, perhaps the outer fringe. I've submitted PRs when I went from 1.x to 2.x, and through the ELF conversion, and from 2.x to 3.x, and saw that others have already submitted my bugs on the 3.x to 4.x path. I do what I can. At this point, I don't have the time to figure what when wrong, when 4.1 is released, I'll check it out. I'll submit the PRs then, if any. > too. It's the middle ground of "criticize, but don't help" that makes me > nutso, but that's just me. Just to end this thread, my final statement is: don't judge my entire past history with FreeBSD based on one reply about stability. I've been a fbsd user/admin/contributor for a long time. Those that have worked with me on ports, code, docs, and advocacy know I'm one of the biggest team players and BSD zealots you're ever going to meet. I'm sorry this attitude hasn't been prevalent throughout this conversation. -- | Andy | e-mail | web | | | andy@lewman.com | www.lewman.com | The surest protection against temptation is cowardice. -- Mark Twain To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message