From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 30 11:50:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77B737B41C for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:50:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 4727781D04; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:50:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:50:42 -0600 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: Leo Bicknell , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TCP Performance Graphs Message-ID: <20011130135042.G46769@elvis.mu.org> References: <20011130125839.A88302@ussenterprise.ufp.org> <20011130102928.E30981@iguana.aciri.org> <20011130141100.B90969@ussenterprise.ufp.org> <20011130112215.H30981@iguana.aciri.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011130112215.H30981@iguana.aciri.org>; from rizzo@aciri.org on Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 11:22:15AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Luigi Rizzo [011130 13:26] wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 02:11:00PM -0500, Leo Bicknell wrote: > ... > > * Many people use FreeBSD as a desktop OS. Think the same people > > who use Win98, but only slightly smarter. These people are > > 'sysadmins' only in the sense that they have a root password. > > When FreeBSD can't fill their DSL line and Linux can, they will > > switch to Linux never knowing what the real problem was. > > we are going to gain/lose these people at any blow of wind, any > spam that says "X is better than Y" will cause them to switch, > and they'll never bother to read why or how to cure it. > Do we care ? Maybe. Do we have the energy to fight FUD ? I doubt it. > > > To extend your logic, we might as well make it default to 4k, since > > that is the most resource conservative, and anyone who cares will > > increase it. > > My logic is that I would like to increase the default to 32 or 64k, > but if this involves starting an endless discussion to reach > consensus on whether this can be done or not, I prefer to fight > other battles (maybe equally pointless). I was about to set the default in -stable to Leo's suggested values, it seems that -current already has the delta he wants in it, my question is, was anything else changed along the lines of the number of nmbclusters allocated in -current to go along with this change? -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' http://www.morons.org/rants/gpl-harmful.php3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message