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Date:      Mon, 10 May 1999 14:48:48 -0500 (EST)
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net>
To:        Zhihui Zhang <zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu>
Cc:        Chuck Youse <cyouse@cybersites.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Sockets and SYSTEM V message queue
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.990510144409.24802K-100000@cygnus.rush.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.990510142747.29300B-100000@sol.cs.binghamton.edu>

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On Mon, 10 May 1999, Zhihui Zhang wrote:

> 
> On Mon, 10 May 1999, Chuck Youse wrote:
> 
> > 
> > That's why you can create sockets in the UNIX domain (AF_UNIX, later
> > renamed AF_LOCAL).  When you bind a UNIX domain socket, it's bound to a
> > name in the filesystem.
> 
> Thanks for the reply. So a socket must be bound to something to be used. 
> You mention a name in the filesystem, does the file exist before binding
> or not? It seems to be a temporary file.

You would benifit greatly by purchaing "Unix Netowrk Programming Vol 1"
by Stevens.

several things:

you can communicate locally via a socket, the kernel detects this
and uses the loopback device, i'm quite sure that it will use a
fast impelementation of a local pipe

you can use named socket, yes they _do_ appear in the filesystem,
the entry should look like a directory, except that the 'd' is
an 's'

the only "problem" with sockets instead of SYSV messages is that
there are no "boundries", it's just a stream of binary gloop,
SYSV message queues allow you to specify the size of each message
sent.  Otherwise you have to sort of fake it and agree on a 
protocol for expressing message size...

does this make sense?

-Alfred




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