From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 13:39:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546EE16A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from etrn2.doruk.net.tr (etrn2.doruk.net.tr [212.58.5.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A103A43D1D for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:39:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vahric@doruk.net.tr) Received: from mail.doruk.net.tr ([212.58.5.6] helo=doruk.net.tr) by etrn2.doruk.net.tr with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ATpew-000499-Ma; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 23:44:46 +0200 Received: from [82.151.156.1] (account vahric HELO xp) by doruk.net.tr (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 65722695; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 23:40:03 +0200 Message-ID: <04a601c3be9c$e79bf840$019c9752@xp> From: "Vahric MUHTARYAN" To: "Kurt Jaeger" References: <042601c3be94$c2ff3bd0$019c9752@xp><001d01c3be97$90ac83b0$3d1f1fac@corp.firstlink.com><047d01c3be98$a717ff20$019c9752@xp> <20031209212344.GB93443@complx.LF.net> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:39:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 cc: Freebsd isp isp Subject: Re: Who are using FreeBSD for Hosting Env. and Which Update Method X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 21:39:43 -0000 Thank I think I will use your method :)) and you method is everyones methode .... :))))) Some body said that binary-updates pre-compiled and not compiled for you system because of this maybe slow down problem can occur and one more question I'm linux admin I can say more Redhat Admin :) We have Redhat 7.2 , 7.3 , 8.0 and 9.0 server but I did not think to update or promode any server to new version Do you alwyas update freebsd's when new stable version released ? like 4.9 to 5.2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt Jaeger" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:23 PM Subject: Re: Who are using FreeBSD for Hosting Env. and Which Update Method > Hi! > > > Which verison FreeBSD are you using ?! > > Most of the server: 4.9. Some bit-rot, we're working on it. > > > How long does it take to complate all process ?! > > For one server, if it's fairly recent: approx. 10 minutes of > person-time, approx. 1-2 hours wall-clock (compiling). > > > You mean I can make source up-to-date (cvsup) / make world process at this > > moment server can response to web clients ?! > > Yes. Only a short time (during the installworld and mergemaster) > the system is in a somehow fragile state, but it works most of > the time, so we do it in multiuser. > > The update 4.9 -> 5.2 will probably be much more difficult and > we will test it extensibly, before we do it on production servers. > > > Why don't you choose binary update methode . Does it have problem ?! or it's > > not a true way to keep up-to-date FreeBSD > > Good question 8-) > > > and do you test those process on other machine before apply those patches to > > your production server ?! > > Yes, intensivly. We first do it to our desktop systems and testservers > (approx. 40 systems) before we make the rollout to the visible servers. > > -- > MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 17 years to go ! > LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net > Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 > D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"