From nobody Wed Nov 16 16:17:21 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NC7Vm2T3Lz4fgLb for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 16:17:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf1-f175.google.com (mail-pf1-f175.google.com [209.85.210.175]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NC7Vl412cz3Bsf for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 16:17:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carpeddiem@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carpeddiem@gmail.com; dmarc=none Received: by mail-pf1-f175.google.com with SMTP id z26so17932831pff.1 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 08:17:35 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=E13ZRVr0TLneavbvD7NQit/HgXxRWqFF0yjoh/FPuCw=; b=qDuW2bPWnKKGIhgnWGroQ7T1+dfth9UCALcOY0Jkh810NfJGvuTC/b30hYYSvSuLIc 2P0petDPRwnaFICuMvXtBkXbFrPjmc1eqDVVcrGINLNMYbiLwPYupmieFEGi4Xm8zzfx G6Pp9vqGyZmbIjDpyZrHpV6ZCJzemVA+itMe043dO+2G7+Fo/fwsEr1Cpi9UFDfhg6UB U9C5kddasX48CW4hWZezUbkYB72Y1HCotB8PltNVtKB0eeaB8U5Gx3MFieiS04jmKzzL cRkWsRHv+ES8ZHca41YuoLuaA0bf5CXnCvRfnwEFXBVkQeJvDfODVpbILWfFe6rr5ryv tEDw== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pmV+zDzGtiU3+a/kboK/r7knr2N9do2I3/Q8pM1jG5QspAOMOXe 9CrPnkmNuxXj/E2Cl1PH58T+MRFC2GqyT94RX9k4iPXSsJg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf6GchU00FkkGrafOuMmkHhz8hvnItnyUH14Fkm/ximscRo8u9pFyoHAvNoqDTFa2viJr4K3LX/f92myUcZCF2U= X-Received: by 2002:a63:501e:0:b0:464:85db:29c with SMTP id e30-20020a63501e000000b0046485db029cmr21069203pgb.600.1668615453124; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 08:17:33 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202111260909.1AQ99LY2023877@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: From: Ed Maste Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:17:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Retiring WITHOUT_CXX To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.98 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.996]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.990]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.210.175:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.210.175:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[carpeddiem]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NC7Vl412cz3Bsf X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Reviving an old thread, On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 14:06, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > > I used to disable [C++ support] in my images but started to need devd > and that is really the only reason its there currently > > #WITHOUT_CXX= # devd needs it Now that libc++ is in /lib we don't need to force devd to be statically linked, and I've opened a review to make that change: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37409 This will save about 1MB. I've also refreshed the WITHOUT_CXX retirement review, in https://reviews.freebsd.org/D33108 WITHOUT_CXX currently turns off all of these options: CLANG LLD LLDB LLVM_BINUTILS GOOGLETEST OFED OPENMP PMC TESTS and avoids building these binaries: devd dtc kyua rs users zfsd