From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 24 17: 7:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C306A37B406; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 17:07:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C86343E3B; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 17:07:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0378.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.199.123] helo=mindspring.com) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18G7ie-0003vS-00; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 17:07:24 -0800 Message-ID: <3DE1777D.F8784C48@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 17:06:05 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chad David Cc: David O'Brien , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Objective-C threads References: <20021029190941.A43525@newton.issci.ca> <3DBF4C35.B554A7C1@mindspring.com> <20021029211322.B45337@newton.issci.ca> <3DBF8FD8.A68747D8@mindspring.com> <20021030101943.GB80447@dragon.nuxi.com> <20021030092353.D58476@newton.issci.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chad David wrote: > On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 02:19:43AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > Perhaps because maintaining them in the FreeBSD repo might be the wrong > > place. To answer your other questiion -- because a change to fix one > > thing for one person might break things for 10 others. > > Which brings us back to my original question... why are ObjC threads > disabled? I don't much care about my other patches, I just want > to know who the 10 others are who will break if we enable threads, > and how to fix that breakage. My minor patches were only posted because > you asked :). > > I do have other patches for thr-posix, but I agree that it would be > better if they went to gcc, and didn't get stacked locally. The answer is that your other patches have not been committed to gcc, so any changes to gcc, other than configuration, would have to be maintained in the FreeBSD repository. I personally have no problem with this, if it makes Objective C work where it didn't before, and doesn't impact and other code, or non-Objective C compilations. But I am not the maintainer, and David O'Brien is, so it is him you have to convince, since it is for him you are making extra work. It may seem the slow way around, but you should submit your patches to the gcc folks first, and wait for them to be included, such that FreeBSD will need only configuration changes. I have gotten literally hundreds of patches into FreeBSD by ignoring the FreeBSD process, and submitting the patches back to the vendor from which FreeBSD obtains the code, so this is a success strategy. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message