From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 01:33:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B7716A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:33:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9554343D46 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:32:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so331800nzk for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:32:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=PWqfeoDMF2Cy+0Gx54EqIcXpuGewZwN+ZbnThBhlAD2RcbTDCuRi1i6YS2BPpBkFkL7kz3PiZOLz8RW4HQdGVVL6uMbMnVslLMIgwZSyY4QFafDFcpJWr8u5s2955dU/VXd0OVksdOxex1i69rN4vxG2NycM2BhtQKeqhI6kcAU= Received: by 10.37.13.75 with SMTP id q75mr3884692nzi; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.10? ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 6sm934679nzn.2005.10.21.18.32.54; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:32:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Vizion , Mark Linimon , Roman Neuhauser Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:34:26 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <20051021235950.GB15030@isis.sigpipe.cz> <200510211707.29223.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200510211707.29223.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510211834.28658.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:33:00 -0000 On Friday 21 October 2005 17:07, Vizion wrote: > On Friday 21 October 2005 16:59, the author Roman Neuhauser contributed to > the dialogue on- > > Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: > ># linimon@lonesome.com / 2005-10-21 17:39:58 -0500: > >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 03:19:47PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > >> > Seems like the quantity of ports available will eventually hit a > >> > plateau with the current two level directory structure. No one is > >> > afraid to update the basic OS when its needed, even when it means > >> > using an entirly different file system ( ie. UFS1 -=> 2 ), why be so > >> > scared when it comes to the ports system? > > Good point > > I know my opinion might be regarded as ecentric but, as I see it, the > community is spending far too much od its developmental resopurces on > advancing the operating system and far too little on bringing user > interfaces and convenience up to date. > > I see it as time to slow down on OS development and really focus on > bringing the operating system management to a level that accords with > comparable modern day standards. > I completely agree with slowing down on OS developement , it seems pointless to race for higher version numbers while problems remain with previous versions. As far as the ports system goes though, to date FreeBSD is way ahead of every other OS I've looked at IMO, of corse that is a poor excuse to stagnate. -Mike