From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 21:54:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7F51065672 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from doug-optiplex.ka9q.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB7414FD71; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4D7BEBA2.9090509@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:54:42 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110304 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Linimon References: <2B21F26B-D7EA-480B-BFA2-BD12DDDB7721@FreeBSD.org> <4D7932AC.1020508@FreeBSD.org> <883EDE8E-309A-497B-A9ED-2350AC1D2546@FreeBSD.org> <20110310235432.GA11144@lonesome.com> <4D796857.1020305@FreeBSD.org> <1150BA48-1B1D-4C8E-9059-ADF5CE2C494C@FreeBSD.org> <20110311050510.GA16469@lonesome.com> <4D7B014A.7050503@FreeBSD.org> <20110312204520.GF24575@lonesome.com> <4D7BE702.9060108@FreeBSD.org> <20110312214733.GA26099@lonesome.com> In-Reply-To: <20110312214733.GA26099@lonesome.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] GNU make 3.82 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:54:43 -0000 On 03/12/2011 13:47, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 01:34:58PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: >>> Would you please offer examples of decisions that you feel that way about? >> >> Clearly it would be inappropriate for me to comment publicly on >> things that were discussed in private, so no, I'm not going to do >> that. > > You just discussed it in public. > > Having done that, in my book, you owe it to the community to either > a) discuss it in public, now that you've made accusations in public, or > b) handle it in private by taking your complaints directly to core@ and > have them take whatever action they feel appropriate with portmgr. c) be willing to move past the mistakes that have been made in the past, and ask for more openness going forward. > Anything else is just hand-waving. Being non-specific won't cause > anything to change. You snipped the part of my previous response where I did outline some specific things that I'm concerned about. Meanwhile, the fact that you're focusing on silly procedural stuff rather than focusing on the real problem(s) is (once again) part of the problem. Doug -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/