From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 13 18:44:37 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970D337B401 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:44:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1AA43F3F for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:44:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F360151A60; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:16:02 +1030 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:16:02 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Vallo Kallaste Cc: Darryl Okahata , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Vinum R5 [was: Re: background fsck deadlocks with ufs2 and big disk] Message-ID: <20030314024602.GL77236@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20030220200317.GA5136@kevad.internal> <200302202228.OAA03775@mina.soco.agilent.com> <20030221080046.GA1103@kevad.internal> <20030227012959.GA89235@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030227095302.GA1183@kevad.internal> <20030301184310.GA631@kevad.internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CgTrtGVSVGoxAIFj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030301184310.GA631@kevad.internal> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --CgTrtGVSVGoxAIFj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday, 1 March 2003 at 20:43:10 +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 11:53:02AM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > >>>> The vinum R5 and system as a whole were stable without >>>> softupdates. Only one problem remained after disabling softupdates, >>>> while being online and user I/O going on, rebuilding of failed disk >>>> corrupt the R5 volume completely. >>> >>> Yes, we've fixed a bug in that area. It had nothing to do with soft >>> updates, though. >> >> Oh, that's very good news, thank you! Yes, it had nothing to do with >> soft updates at all and that's why I had the "remained after" in the >> sentence. >> >>>> Don't know is it fixed or not as I don't have necessary hardware at >>>> the moment. The only way around was to quiesce the volume before >>>> rebuilding, umount it, and wait until rebuild finished. I'll suggest >>>> extensive testing cycle for everyone who's going to work with vinum >>>> R5. Concat, striping and mirroring has been a breeze but not so with >>>> R5. >>> >>> IIRC the rebuild bug bit any striped configuration. >> >> Ok, I definitely had problems only with R5, but you certainly know >> much better what it was exactly. I'll need to lend 50-pin SCSI cable >> and test vinum again. Will it matter on what version of FreeBSD I'll >> try on? My home system runs -current of Feb 5, but if you suggest >> -stable for consistent results, I'll do it. > > So I did. Loaned two SCSI disks and 50-pin cable. Things haven't > improved a bit, I'm very sorry to say it. Sorry for the slow reply to this. I thought it would make sense to try things out here, and so I kept trying to find time, but I have to admit I just don't have it yet for a while. I haven't forgotten, and I hope that in a few weeks time I can spend some time chasing down a whole lot of Vinum issues. This is definitely the worst I have seen, and I'm really puzzled why it always happens to you. > # simulate disk crash by forcing one arbitrary subdisk down > # seems that vinum doesn't return values for command completion status > # checking? > echo "Stopping subdisk.. degraded mode" > vinum stop -f r5.p0.s3 # assume it was successful I wonder if there's something relating to stop -f that doesn't happen during a normal failure. But this was exactly the way I tested it in the first place. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --CgTrtGVSVGoxAIFj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+cUJqIubykFB6QiMRAle4AJ0RiLHPlZkkMihZbjd2ld5GjgW/DACfQPyo BKnje63g9OX7alYPJT97HWc= =uOoV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CgTrtGVSVGoxAIFj-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message