From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 22:28:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1B2106564A for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:28:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060EE8FC0C for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574F528480 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 3DAF62847F; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:28:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from dijkstra (p5B37AABB.dip.t-dialin.net [91.55.170.187]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 59F212847D for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 00:28:02 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111029002802.767a536e@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <20111028175401.17906e52@scorpio> References: <20111028160419.14aa5bb3@scorpio> <201110282135.p9SLZK80075050@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20111028175401.17906e52@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:28:14 -0000 On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:54:01 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:35:20 -0500 (CDT) > Robert Bonomi articulated: >=20 > >=20 > > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:04:19 -0400, Jerry > > pontificated: > > > > > > I buy my cars from known corporations and not the local chop-shop. > > > My drugs come form known pharmaceutical corporations and not the > > > local pusher. I like my device specific codes to come from those > > > best able to supply them, the OEM. > >=20 > > "I am just going to reply to this one point because it is where > > you(sic) entire argument breaks down." > >=20 > > That attitude is entirely acceptable for _your_ decision making. > > Asserting that nobody else shoul(sic) have any other alternatives to > > what you think is 'acceptable' is downright fascist. >=20 > Who, or is it whom you choose to be your supplier is entirely a > decision you have to make based on your needs and desires. My point is > that anyone offering such products should be to some degree held > legally responsible to their worth. A "Fly by Night" operation is > totally unacceptable to me. If you find it acceptable then so be it. > Remember the adage: "You get what you pay for." >=20 > By the way, calling me a Fascist when a significant number of users > of Open Source are socialist is rather funny. >=20 =46rom a point of view a political sciences theorist might assume, fascism an= d socialism are not that far apart. Both need to abolish individual liberti= es quite soon. Which is what you seem to claim ... abolish the right of the= individual to make contracts based on his/her terms. BTW, I do not believe that many open source users would accept a serious decline of their civil and legal liberty. So I do not believe many are really more than cherry-picking socialists, even if calling oneself socialist is somehow en vogue. We could debate anarchism, though, ... ;-) --=20 Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 2