From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 03:28:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700EC16A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:28:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2428243D4C for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:28:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.27.15 with plain) by smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2005 03:28:36 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: Michael Nottebrock Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:28:32 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <3121.216.177.243.38.1114856874.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <200504300426.06174.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <200505010152.05834.lofi@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200505010152.05834.lofi@freebsd.org> X-Face: "u-%.52Z_uQCP'Vdj{95/n*(sgAAm`F/p'b0zo%-DuBTdZ*qW!!/idDBRjkFfJD[Qe&>=?utf-8?q?=5F2=0A=09?=<}OGsEY~)n?NywZRi9xm-jH_VPg"8nTSzo:r8;U3oTQz|@z)|>%i+MRY2Y#>s~X`sV$&t"=?utf-8?q?=0A=09AkQ=5EU3rJIFCU=3F=5DcC=27F=26fY4=23Jf-=7D=3F7x?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504302028.33210.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: /dev/null cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cleanup-boot.messages+overhaul-install X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 03:28:37 -0000 On Sat 30 Apr 05 16:52, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > On Saturday, 30. April 2005 13:26, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > Personally, I'd *love* to be able to install KMail without having > > to install kdebase and kdelibs, > > just kdelibs, in fact Really? Well, never tried that ... but I do use other parts of KDE, so not sure how practical it would be to not have the base. Also, I do like Konqueror as a file manager. > > not to mention the rest of kdepim, but > > trying to convince the KDE project to uncouple it from the rest of > > the project is rather like tilting at windmills. > > It's important to keep in mind that such a KMail would be a different > program than it is today, with a different (considerably smaller) > feature set. Well, getting deep into bikeshed territory here, but, yeah, I know. At first this used to frustrate me, but I've also found that other parts of kdepim are useful to me, and I like having the integration (KGpg in particular is a big help when using with KMail, and I've come to like KOrganizer, as it integrates with my address book and KMail), but I don't usually run KDE as a desktop, as it's more than I need. Also, it's nice to be able to install other parts of KDE if I find the need. I run xfce4 with parts of KDE and Gnome, and my favorite terminal emulator is Eterm (it's so fast), though the full Enlightenment is cool but not my thing, and I never did like Gnome as a desktop. Sorta piecemeal, but it works for me. I'm just glad disk space is cheap these days ;) - jt