From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 21:11:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4195A37B401 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:11:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD4C43E3B for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:11:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA75Bhpk051183; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:11:43 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:11:21 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20021106.221121.05467853.imp@bsdimp.com> To: dgilbert@velocet.ca Cc: setantae@submonkey.net, saper@system.pl, kris@obsecurity.org, FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [current] Re: What is user uucp good for? From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <15817.57457.767653.27721@canoe.velocet.net> References: <20021105220926.GB6129@submonkey.net> <20021106.042338.110621747.imp@bsdimp.com> <15817.57457.767653.27721@canoe.velocet.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <15817.57457.767653.27721@canoe.velocet.net> David Gilbert writes: : >>>>> "M" == M Warner Losh writes: : : M> In message: <20021105220926.GB6129@submonkey.net> Ceri Davies : M> writes: : For that matter, do we still : M> need xten, a user who has been pushed so far : to the edge of : M> obscurity that it's home directory doesn't even exist on a : : M> freshly installed system (and I'm not talking about /nonexistent). : : M> For a long time I was a devender of xten, but my hardware is dead, : M> and the original author, who is my boss, wouldn't morn the passing : M> of it at all... : : Add to that: recent x10 hardware that I've bought has worked with : standard serial w/o special x10 drivers. Simple python (or perl) : scripts reading the serial port are sufficient to talk to it. : : IIRC, the x10 computer interface was $19.95 or so. That might have : included shipping. It's even fully bidirectional. The drivers in the tree aren't for the serial versions, but these old things that interfaced to the parallel port... I have the newer serial stuff, and it doesn't use the x10 stuff in the tree. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message