From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 8 20:04:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69AF16A468 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:04:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee (smtp-out.neti.ee [194.126.126.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E78513C4FF for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:04:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MXR-13.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF5712032; Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:04:27 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (MXR-1.estpak.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iSsqJl7utn8Y; Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:04:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from Relayhost1.neti.ee (Relayhost1 [88.196.174.141]) by MXR-13.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C40312030; Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:04:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from originaal.kodu.lan (88-196-109-8-dsl.trt.estpak.ee [88.196.109.8]) by Relayhost1.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D10D29F74D; Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:04:24 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4783D748.1050401@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:04:24 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <1199812249.96494.133.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> <4783C8A8.2090705@raad.tartu.ee> <4783D41B.3000204@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4783D41B.3000204@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Wayne Sierke Subject: Re: 6.3-PRERELEASE desktop system periodically freezes momentarily X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:04:30 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > Toomas Aas wrote: >> I have a 6.3-PRERELEASE system (last cvsupped Dec 12), which >> always freezes *once* a few minutes after booting up. > This is usually when your system accesses swap because you ran out of > free RAM. Hmm, I thought that 768 MB RAM (minus 16 for integrated video) should be enough for anyone ;) at least when just running fluxbox with no apps started yet. Right now 'top' shows that no swap is being used and I have Thunderbird, Firefox, xchat, xmms, xcalc and 5 xterms with ssh sessions: last pid: 1264; load averages: 1.04, 1.04, 1.01 up 0+02:07:15 21:59:30 82 processes: 2 running, 80 sleeping CPU states: 0.4% user, 98.5% nice, 1.1% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 149M Active, 227M Inact, 100M Wired, 1388K Cache, 84M Buf, 251M Free Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free but of course I can't claim that swap wasn't being used when the problem happened. I do understand that there is virtually nothing in my initial posting that could possibly help track down the problem. I just got this "me too" feeling. -- Toomas Aas ... Windws is ine for bckgroun comunicaions - Bll Gats, 192