From owner-ctm-users@freebsd.org Thu Jul 12 19:41:49 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A2E103C45A for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 19:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from land.berklix.org (land.berklix.org [144.76.10.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "land.berklix.org", Issuer "land.berklix.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5EF77C21C for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 19:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FA3756.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.250.55.86]) (authenticated bits=0) by land.berklix.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w6CJfhls026380 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 19:41:47 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id w6CJfg2J081686 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 21:41:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w6CJfU4p022519 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 21:41:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201807121941.w6CJfU4p022519@fire.js.berklix.net> cc: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Planning to stop CTM in November 2018 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.eu BSD Unix Linux Consultants, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.eu/free/ X-From: http://www.berklix.eu/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 10 Jul 2018 23:30:24 +0200." <201807102130.w6ALUOnR097654@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 21:41:30 +0200 X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 19:41:49 -0000 "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > "Montgomery-Smith, Stephen" wrote: > > I am thinking of stopping production of CTM updates in November 2018. > > The reason is that the computer it operates on uses FreeBSD-10 which > > will go EOL in November 2018. If I update to FreeSBD-11, then I will > > have to rebuild the gnupgp port. But the new version doesn't accept the > > current keys. I could create new keys, but it would be a lot of effort. > > Considering the number of people using CTM, I don't think it is worth > > the man-hours. > > > > Comments? > > Unfortunate, > What's stopped more people benefitting from CTM is lack of PR I think, > as few non users realise CTM's advantages: ideal for intermitent > connectivity (& low bandwidth & reproducibility). Stock up with a > load of compressed deltas while the net is connected & free eg on > home/work dsl/broadband flat-rate, before hitting the road with > expensive mobile tarrifs, or behind company firewall that blocks > non http & mail. > > Anyone fancy using https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi > to submit diffs for manuals & web to note that ? > > I've not used key signing, always been on my ToDo list, never had time, > I wonder what proportion of users use those keys. > > I wouldnt worry too much if your generator host hits 10 EOL: > my ctm.berklix.org delta archive is also available & runs 10, & I > never seem to find time to upgrade on time. (elsewhere I still > have boxes running far older for good reasons, as well as > current on others). > > PS sorry if anyone noticed ftp:// & http:// ctm.berklix.org was off > line for a few hours Sunday afternoon TZ=+02:00, an accident during > ... an upgrade ;-) (current@ Subject: How to add su to /rescue ? ) PS how about when the time comes for new keys, leave keys broken until someone who wants to receieve with working keys offers to help ? Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, Computer Consultant, Systems Engineer, BSD Linux Unix, Munich Brexit Referendum stole 3.7 million votes inc. 700,000 from British in EU. UK Goverment lies it's democratic in Article 50 paragraph 3 of letter to EU. http://exitbrexit.uk