From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 13 23:01:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A081065670 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor1.peak.org (redcondor1.peak.org [69.59.192.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FE08FC12 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from peak-mail-gateway.peak.org ([69.59.192.41]) by redcondor1.peak.org ({e03e86cd-14ae-47ce-9578-3c080ce9c462}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20110113230136509 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:01:36 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from oak.localnet (207.55.91.159.peak.org [207.55.91.159] (may be forged)) by peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id p0DN1Z0p024836 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550ECC6FC for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p0DN1Yso060545; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:01:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D2F606D.6090407@gmail.com> <20110113204525.GB3646@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <579FC70C-5B5B-43B4-9E71-D765887FAF6F@mac.com> <20110113210319.GD3646@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <1294955182.10908.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2062F50F-5D14-496C-A97A-FC4CDB3FDD3F@mac.com> <20110113233016.5de7b7b8.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:01:34 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20110113233016.5de7b7b8.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:30:16 +0100") Message-ID: <87hbdc4ddd.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:01:37 -0000 Polytropon writes: > On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:50:27 -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote: >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Devin Teske wrote: >> > This is nearly always accurate on any FreeBSD system (when wanting to >> > query the date the machine was built): >> > >> > ls -l /etc/defaults/rc.conf >> >> I gather that you don't ever run mergemaster, which would update this file? >> My machine installed in 2001 has a Dec 2010 date for that file: >> >> -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 36037 Dec 1 14:13 /etc/defaults/rc.conf > > Exactly that was my thought. Maybe a file that is NOT subject > to one of the system upgrade procedures would be better? Maybe > something in /boot? > > % ls -l /etc/defaults/rc.conf > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 34300 Aug 24 2008 /etc/defaults/rc.conf > % ls -l /boot/defaults/loader.conf > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 19426 Aug 24 2008 /boot/defaults/loader.conf > > No, forget about that, also nonsense, looks to new... How about /var/empty: % ls -ldo /var/empty/ dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 Jul 18 19:16 /var/empty/ It can be changed, but doesn't look likely. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org