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Date:      Sun, 31 May 1998 19:39:31 -0700
From:      Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
Cc:        Kevin Street <street@iname.com>, Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, dfr@nlsystems.com, mike@smith.net.au, rminnich@Sarnoff.COM, doconnor@gsoft.com.au, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Star Office Installation 
Message-ID:  <199806010239.TAA25205@rah.star-gate.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 31 May 1998 19:18:43 PDT." <9120.896667523@time.cdrom.com> 

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Sorry, Jordan I differed with your opinion. We are obviously at a stage
that we need to increase our coverage and in my opinion getting
Star Office to work on FreeBSD is a good goal so the motivation 
factor is there.

Again, it would be nice to know the root of the lethargic-ness in this
mailing list --- that is fixing Star Office is not the problem rather
the non responsiveness in the mailing list is the problem.

Having one of the well known hackers tackle the problem is not the best way 
to go for that is creating the "dominant hacker" syndrome. It is sort of 
like survival of the species and in our case it should be survival of
the FreeBSD herd not so much of the hacker.

Requesting censorship on the voice of reason is not an option if anything
the useless thread on Star Office should have been steered in a more 
pro-active fashion. Perhaps you like to hear that Star Office
has problems over and over on the list . Who knows maybe someone
in the list would care to make a song out of the theme...


"FreeBSD (Houston ), we have a problem" 

The only problem around here with the aboe  is that there is no
Mission Control in Houston to answer your distress call .

"FreeBSD, we have a Problem" 

	Later,
	Amancio





> > Now, I am really curious as to why people are not trying to fix
> > the linux emulation layer related problems with respect to Star Office.
> 
> So fix it already!  You have commit privileges.  Saying "I'm really
> curious why someone isn't doing the work" has never been a successful
> motivational technique for getting work done around here. If anything
> I'd say the irritation it induces tends to lead people *away* from
> doing whatever it is you're whining about because now you've made it
> less than enjoyable to do so - you're doing it only because someone's
> trying to goad you into it.
> 
> Or, to put it somewhat more succinctly: Put up or shut up, Amancio! :-)
> 
> - Jordan



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