From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 19 18:42:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (rly-ip01.mx.aol.com [205.188.156.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93F137B503 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:42:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from tot-tm.proxy.aol.com (tot-tm.proxy.aol.com [152.163.197.1]) by rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id VAA13831; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:42:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from jmsws (AC910DA4.ipt.aol.com [172.145.13.164]) by tot-tm.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f1K2gJC19902; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:42:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003901c09ae7$5bd236c0$6a06fea9@jmsws> From: "Jonathan Slivko" To: , References: <20010219184709.A68789@wjv.com> Subject: Re: Redundancy... Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:46:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Apparently-From: JMS19NYC@aol.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Guys, Another ISP that is worth looking into is CyberXpress. They have 3 T1's, all multihomed as well as all the backup, both data and power that you'll ever need. It'll run you about $250 for half a rack of space, enough to fit 5 machines or $500 for a full rack, which is enough to fit 10 machines of a standard workstation configuration. You can go and get more information about this company from their website: http://www.cxp.com. If you would like further information, please e-mail me privately and not send it to the list. Thanks. -- Jonathan M. Slivko -- Jonathan M. Slivko Systems Administrator, APPL Technologies Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network website: http://webpage.pace.edu/js43064n/ "Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper?" -- ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Vermillion To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: Re: Redundancy... > On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 06:03:04PM -0500, Drew J. Weaver thus spoke: > > > On a side note, make sure that the ISP that you co-locate has gas > > powered generators as well as backups protecting your servers, > > or it wont really do you much good to have it hosted out of some > > guy's basement =) > > Gas powered generators are typically on the small side. Serious > generators are typically diesel. To me the best way is to find an > ISP who is co-located inside a carrier [we've done that with our > ISP], and rely on humoungous UPS and the 1MW+ Cat generators. Not > the cheapest but IMO the best. Prices aren't the cheapest - but > not that bad either. eg a 1 RU server with 1.5Mbit guaranteed > bandwith on our 100MB uplink to the OC192 - is $850 month. > > It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish and how > critical the servers are. > > > This may or may not be an option, but segregate the resources that > > much be live 24x7 (probably not your office client server > > applications) and co-locate those. Don't bother having a local copy > > of them since it is probably just as easy to update the content at > > your co-located site. > > > > Then the only thing you keep local is your interoffice lcient server > > stuff shich if the building goes down, nobody is live to use anyway. > > > We would want to co-locate 4-5 boxes (all FreeBSD & 1 NT). One > > box is a DB server (MySQL) and the others are web servers. We > > currently are no co-locating. All of our boxes are currently under > > our roof along with the bandwidth (2 T-1's). As we found out, the > > biggest point of failure that we have is if there is an extended > > power outage at our location. > > > > > -- > Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message