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Date:      Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:34:25 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        "ROTHENBERG, MICHAEL" <MROTHENBERG@exchange1.PRIA.com>
Cc:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>, questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: ethernet config (Was: Network trickles ......)
Message-ID:  <14819.42881.989809.335493@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <CB5D74F381BDD311944F0000F802076603A1CB78@EXCHANGE1>
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ROTHENBERG, MICHAEL writes:
> ifconfig shows that you are in fact running 100baseTX full-duplex. What does
> the product spec say for your hub thing? Can it run that? since you are on
> autoselect and the card selected 100baseTX I would assume that your hub
> thing can also do that and negotiated with the card. Which should be all you
> need to have happen.
> 
> You indicate that you read the man page for xl. The device is dc. Are they
> the same?

The hub thing says the LAN side is a switch, so full duplex ought to
be ok.

The dc and xl pages are different. I changed the test box halfway
through, and didn't fix that part of my message. I described the dc
man page. The xl man page allows both "full-duplex" and "half-duplex"
for media options.

> I think the interesting thing is that you can swap OS's and get wildly
> better performance. What does the ifconfig say on those others? Its got to
> be a settings thing and not really related to the OS itself. Its probably an
> 'oh duh' answer that we will kick ourselves for when found. };)

That's not me; I'm just trying to figure out if I could get better
performance by forcing my NIC's to half duplex mode.

	Thanx,
	<mike


> -Michael
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Meyer [mailto:mwm@mired.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:19 PM
> To: Alfred Perlstein
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: ethernet config (Was: Network trickles ......)
> 
> 
> Alfred Perlstein writes:
> > * Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> [001010 10:09] wrote:
> > > Alfred Perlstein writes:
> > > > The most switches can auto-negotiate so that if you're set up
> > > > incorrectly you should be ok, however the real killer is trying to
> > > > use full-duplex on a hub, which never seems to work.
> > > What's the failure in that case? Just slow? Or something deadly?
> > Degraded performance, ranging from packetloss to being unable to
> > achieve any sort of packet transmission/recieving.
> 
> Ok, now I'm realy confused. I think I'm seeing about the same
> performance through an LinkSys Etherfast hub/router box as I was with
> an X-over cable before (~1.2MBytes/sec). On the other hand, I'm
> willing to try anything that might improve performance. The ifconfig
> output for one of the interfaces is:
> 
> dc0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>         inet 192.168.1.130 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
>         ether 00:d0:09:fc:5a:e6 
>         media: autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>) status: active
>         supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX
> 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP none
> 
> The "media:" line looks to me like the card is running 100baseTX in
> full duplex mode. The man page for the xl claims that the only media
> option is "full-duplex", and without it the interface runs in half
> duplex mode. The rc.conf line for the interface just sets the inet
> address & netmask; nothing else gets done. Trying to set the media
> options while the system running doesn't change the ifconfig
> output. Adding "-mediaopt full-duplex" to the rc.conf file and
> rebooting doesn't change it either.
> 
> So either 1) I'm misreading the line, or 2) I need to be told how to
> set the interface to half-duplex, as the man page is wrong.
> 
> 	Thanx,
> 	<mike
> 
> 
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