From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Nov 15 12:56:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F33BA27865 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 12:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-machine@vniz.net) Received: from mail-lf0-f45.google.com (mail-lf0-f45.google.com [209.85.215.45]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB2DA19EC for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 12:56:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-machine@vniz.net) Received: by lfs39 with SMTP id 39so73637618lfs.3 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 04:56:28 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=WcDM8cnHhsj4D2nDI5Q1zrR5ObABf10qCJ8sxn0625o=; b=UYQCI0Qy4jtPxzKMWJus0ofZeaobO1335AH6ayG10VEdQEL4ziIExzBWXOuo/m6aDb JuVEuLuci3/IWXzU82GzLmFFNX5pfcRjU+Qj+eoQFAdQ0l5/phAaJuX9RPmjs2fjrk0F isCrLWFGINcQ9rIyCeCX5vLqk6UzfkuGA+ZmYPprNs3CEGW5l9Ucc2mw/mnhpD0DwrB/ liGvS8DysYlB1pX6NoWjhl/pV1Tdw3qhaivwo5jDswKqXJ5YlYKrPwl6x1+DWo5mgySi 2cVWg8ypDewKoG1QCBZP6P+Y3c5M/RYrFYpVGLW0c/RWExaMRroeC/mGebV7q8hNYFDP WZng== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnUPg0T9wDBkYEHvVJv/TP7HaGM+ar77ztZpCnanHUALQDjgCyzb0pBZceN4O/Nz1BdyAL0 X-Received: by 10.25.15.213 with SMTP id 82mr14185407lfp.98.1447592187982; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 04:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([89.169.173.68]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id qp7sm4667056lbc.24.2015.11.15.04.56.26 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Nov 2015 04:56:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests To: Baptiste Daroussin References: <69242BD8-9010-47F0-9706-BE206376ECEA@gmail.com> <289892B6-EACE-4BDA-B838-D3DC750319DE@gmail.com> <56482FA9.2010803@marino.st> <56487973.5070803@freebsd.org> <20151115124656.GB93991@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> Cc: John Marino , NGie Cooper , Craig Rodrigues , freebsd-current Current , "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" From: Andrey Chernov Message-ID: <564880FA.5000009@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 15:56:26 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151115124656.GB93991@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CV3f7EI3iERDj0vSvSFiO0l5rNL3jVXkf" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 12:56:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --CV3f7EI3iERDj0vSvSFiO0l5rNL3jVXkf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15.11.2015 15:46, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 03:24:19PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: >> On 15.11.2015 10:09, John Marino wrote: >> ISO8859-1 locales are legacy even if obsoleted in modern world (I agre= e >> with that). Lots of ports (even at configure stage!) have checks for >> them. Since we generate locales from CLDR now, it will be no cost to >> bring all 8859-1 back to not violate POLA and not fix every failing po= rt. >> > Exp-run have been made and no ports were failing with the removed local= es. There is soft-fail, configure just marks that locales are not supported and use "C". Sorry I don't remember port names where I saw it right now and don't have a time to search for them right now too. Soft-fails (like in tcl with nl_langinfo) are almost impossible to detect excepting specific situation happens or source code inspection. Do we ever need them when there is no harm to keep 8859-1 locales? --=20 http://ache.vniz.net/ --CV3f7EI3iERDj0vSvSFiO0l5rNL3jVXkf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWSID6AAoJEKUckv0MjfbKBsQH/iQ3fB49jepAL4dc8cdQ98d4 6rXZtXlPBbYdmJY2GYA29hWvRLmq8e6ySRtI7wUu/VWyJbbIipTZHSHXpTc5lgXE K/aANZPyagcx+24d2JIltL0/J3TV7tZ0XP5qJioA8syB+2lfGSK5yT8d7pcsGot0 m/aQn39l0QIMKRYPdRHO+9P3n3CuX7cuhRBqI6VLVwJQPLocdHkXnb37TFqZkb0B V8X/dmoEU9Urov4TaM5gLU1ub/QoSY7M+NSKvQHL0UQzSEpYWUgKgGGRRJwKjKjn z8F+m5QU92vA0lRX4umOf4jV7Za/NtvAHJPssEBxmnepN3ChNofl2uk/OMA3KpY= =SMgy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CV3f7EI3iERDj0vSvSFiO0l5rNL3jVXkf--