From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 4 22:41:41 2005 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B9D16A41C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:41:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karl@FS.denninger.net) Received: from FS.denninger.net (wsip-68-15-213-52.at.at.cox.net [68.15.213.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7847843D53 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:41:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karl@FS.denninger.net) Received: from fs.denninger.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by FS.denninger.net (8.13.3/8.13.1) with SMTP id j54MfcbM089478 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:41:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from karl@FS.denninger.net) Received: from fs.denninger.net [127.0.0.1] by Spamblock-sys; Sat Jun 4 17:41:38 2005 Received: (from karl@localhost) by FS.denninger.net (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j54Mfb2Z089476 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:41:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from karl) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:41:37 -0500 From: Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050604224137.GA89464@FS.denninger.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20050603222620.GA708@hiMolde.no> <20050603223634.GA13927@thened.net> <20050603225015.GA60773@FS.denninger.net> <a68c171f66025eb61ef55bda67d7f381@ee.ryerson.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <a68c171f66025eb61ef55bda67d7f381@ee.ryerson.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Karl's Sushi and Packet Smashers X-Die-Spammers: Spammers cheerfully broiled for supper and served with ketchup! Subject: Re: RAID-1 as back-up X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 22:41:42 -0000 On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 04:57:52PM -0400, David Magda wrote: > > On Jun 3, 2005, at 18:50, Karl Denninger wrote: > > >As with all backup strategies (absent write-once media in SOME cases) > >if the > >media is PHYSICALLY connected to the machine and it is hacked it is > >possible > >for a hacker to scribble on THAT as well. This is no more likely, > >however, > > Or a voltage spike to fry it (the OP has a UPS, right?). Or if there is > some flooding it will scramble things as well. > > Regardless of media you use, make sure there is at least one back up > off site. I've heard of some insurance companies not paying out the > business continuation payments since there was no off site data (it was > a condition in the agreement / contract). Having an offsite copy is just good common sense. My point is that there are other ways to do this beyond traditional tape media, and that a RAID system is a perfectly-viable means of accomplishing the goal. - -- Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind