Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 12:49:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Louis Epstein <le@main.put.com> To: Alphons van Werven <freebsd@skysmurf.nl> Cc: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Jive prejudices Message-ID: <20161023124730.H69026-100000@main.put.com> In-Reply-To: <20161023162556.GA66792@spectrum.skysmurf.nl>
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Alphons van Werven wrote: > Louis Epstein wrote: > > > In any event,portmaster -a -i updates now abort because misc/jive is > > detected on my system. > > > > This goes beyond "We will no longer provide this application" to > > "we will no longer let you upgrade your applications as long as you > > have this one installed". > > To be fair, I strongly doubt this is deliberate policy. > > Portmaster itself is a port too. When pkg(7) hit the streets and other > sweeping changes were made to the ports infrastructure, Portmaster had to > be updated and that might still be an ongoing process. In any case, Port- > master needs *some* way of dealing with broken(*) ports and I can imagine > that this can get tricky when dependencies are involved. From the looks of > it, Portmaster just takes the easy way out and simply bails completely > when it encounters a broken port. Does it matter that I installed it with pkg rather than portmaster or make install? > However, wouldn't using the option "-x misc/jive" help for the time being? adding that before or after the -a -i leads to the same abort. > Jive *will* be kept available through alternative means in a way that > Portmaster should be able to handle too. > > > You really need to have a hands-off policy on what software people use. > > To that I couldn't agree more. > > Fonz > > Ad (*): Here I mean broken in the broadest sense. Morality-fuelled censor- > ship is rare, but occasionally ports are unfetchable, have security holes, > fail to build or simply don't work. > > A.J. "Fonz" van Werven <freebsd@skysmurf.nl> -=-=- The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again, at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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