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[174.102.163.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 1sm82441itx.40.2019.05.28.09.55.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 28 May 2019 09:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Mac G5 X11 performance To: Justin Hibbits Cc: "freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org" References: <8d112285-674a-79a6-71dc-c90d82c8fc89@gmail.com> <20190528100732.21200d05@titan.knownspace> From: Jason Bacon Message-ID: <73b2db2c-8729-5579-09eb-3a15db370aa2@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 11:55:56 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190528100732.21200d05@titan.knownspace> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5104688E05 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=mWknwirw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of bacon4000@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::142 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bacon4000@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.65 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.88)[-0.883,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.4.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.75)[ip: (1.88), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.30), asn: 15169(-2.29), country: US(-0.06)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 16:56:00 -0000 On 2019-05-28 10:07, Justin Hibbits wrote: > On Tue, 28 May 2019 09:35:50 -0500 > Jason Bacon wrote: > >> Now that qt5-core is fixed, I was able to install x11/lumina. >> >> GUI performance is vastly better under Lumina than LXDE. >> >> It still snags fairly frequently when the system is under load, but >> most of the time it's perfectly fine. >> >> Still no GL support, but I can live with that. >> >> If I could just get a full-featured browser and email client working, >> I could actually sit at this machine for typical work. >> > I use claws-mail for my email client on my AmigaOne X5000, and it works > well enough. Used it on my G5, too. Otter-browser "works", but > crashes with large images and javascript (javascript can be disabled, > so I did, but large images can't really be worked around). There's > been chatter to port qt5-webengine to big-endian Linux, and shouldn't > be hard to get on FreeBSD once that work is done. Firefox needs a lot > of work as well. > > - Justin Thanks for the feedback. Sylpheed works with my gmail account, but so far no luck with office365 or yahoo. All of the firefox dependencies are installed, but the firefox build itself is failing for me. In my view it's cool enough that I can run Lumina desktop with good performance.  Now I can conveniently do ports testing on the console and leave long-running builds unattended.     JB -- Earth is a beta site.