From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 22 20:29:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFBB106566C; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320DC8FC16; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:29:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so78697bwz.43 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:29:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lsUL1qbinv73+mbaZiP+HHQ8zce2cJZ9jveMq9qJGRk=; b=qT50M//VWMOSVLw4nSGGX8hNSTQFEeupLEeLt/sb5C6S2KrfaeACMr3NEEfuui+U+F Tni6P8NGPv6jPqOT7BK5NsBs30WlXaidktMTMDJNh4fKY0DfQBDQGp0qClNIeBr2uMB4 S7WE9ty5DLGadNlkx1NglXrYxsTOH41YdoAvU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LKG8zVo4c6p6ZFVqKi5NJzroyv2SFAXItw55cDqoMCHOqZr5Pw/yYjaupj7yvwmQ6/ 0kumdQngur7CNOvf4tOyGEC9MnMkyj2YJrtU/Ke2Y0C0CuEVPiDdq2XdBAqzV5oR++lg KvqBdNWoIhhY1lFJpYh2fQrWAu78TqzsxVFF8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.183.75 with SMTP id t11mr108170hbg.205.1253651365847; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:29:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090922200449.GL19207@rugsucker.local> References: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> <20090922135435.36a3d40e@lazybytes.org> <4AB90448.9020706@FreeBSD.org> <19e9a5dc0909221014o14e88c96ubf32142b85d781d@mail.gmail.com> <20090922173517.GB63149@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20090922200449.GL19207@rugsucker.local> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:29:25 -0300 Message-ID: <19e9a5dc0909221329j5757c3f7kc23e94ea8f26a05@mail.gmail.com> From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: Gregory Shapiro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: arch@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, Steve Kargl Subject: Re: BIND in the base (Was: Re: tmux(1) in base) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:29:28 -0000 On 9/22/09, Gregory Shapiro wrote: >> I suppose it doesn't matter to you that sendmail is actually >> maintained by Greg Shapiro, VP, CTO of Sendmail, Inc. > > While I appreciate the vote of confidence, it doesn't, and it shouldn't. > I'll continue to maintain sendmail in the base as long as it is welcome > there. If the project wants it moved out, that is not up to me (though > I hope it stays). > > I haven't spent a lot of time looking at DMA, but some requirements that > pop to mind for it to be a replacement would be things like accepting > local mail via SMTP (e.g., for MUAs which use SMTP submission) and > supporting STARTTLS and SMTP AUTH for talking to the upstream MTA. Dear Mr. Gregory Shapiro: I'm writing this letter to let you know that I have nothing personal against either your person, your professional work, your contributions to the FreeBSD project, your personal and professional merits or anything at all. I was prompt with an dubiously honest question and I replied with an honest answer, as I know no other way, and yet still stand in the belief that the use of names as means to declare any authority, be it moral or otherwise, constitutes no truth nor does any good to reason. With that beign said, I hereby show my respect and thank you for your invaluable contribution to the FreeBSD project, as well as I thank you for clarifying me "why should sendmail remain in base", which is something that no one has ever done this far. My apologies for the inconveniences or offenses I might unwittingly have caused you. Sincerily yours Gonzalo Ra=FAl Nemmi