From nobody Mon Nov 28 17:42:39 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NLXqY6mdPz4jSLF for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 17:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail.madpilot.net (vogon.madpilot.net [159.69.1.99]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NLXqY4DvWz4BKK for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 17:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from mail (mail [192.168.254.3]) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NLXqQ0YsWz6hNQ; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 18:42:42 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=madpilot.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:in-reply-to :from:from:content-language:references:subject:subject:date:date :message-id:received; s=bjowvop61wgh; t=1669657360; x= 1671471761; bh=WVgSsEQxLDf3/6kChf+/boyBtqaWZfCQNkaRqUXVG0M=; b=J 1TLrFilRSH7F18WFrmM34TI7p9GQ5YIHI3t+rM8kmTM7QwDl0Ln4514a/ZODPW3V wMl42NASet0bqnzo93dbXRCWn/LiRtpTnl8zt4gekVvKThk1iuu+VR34HjuXFjUF MgDc5Kb1Xt4XhfVPvXrx0Wejio2qKaubPOHUMBZDnxDAZSHEN159pvwBWaPyZXvx s/vDA2qvor+E/0VaZkT2fwaIyE+Tz2sygqz9qCYLilAFswCmOGovyLwlxAJBwMbw o7IJuOude0tmFAUUm8jbSszQKJg33is7O/e3uSqQ6en8cyi4V+1O2mIO3edCY4ts ikHX1RvfAtHKOISFUCpIw== Received: from mail.madpilot.net ([192.168.254.3]) by mail (mail.madpilot.net [192.168.254.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id RiJBri0ff2CK; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 18:42:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 18:42:39 +0100 Subject: Re: FreeBSD financing To: Laurent Jean , Wojciech Puchar Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: Content-Language: en-US From: Guido Falsi In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NLXqY4DvWz4BKK X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:159.69.0.0/16, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org On 28/11/22 18:18, Laurent Jean wrote: > Freedom is subjective. Just to nitpick, the english language has a problem with the word "free" meaning two completely different things. for completeness: free as "you don't have to pay for it", is a completely different concept from free as "with no strings attached". My language (and all the ones deriving from Latin, Latin included) have separate words for those meanings, for example (libero/libre -> no strings attached, gratis -> without paying) I suspect that the word "free" has caused a lot of misunderstanding in this area. -- Guido Falsi