From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 14 14:30:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E02816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:30:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C8343D3F for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:30:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (cpahev@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j1EEUcvF078710 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:30:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j1EEUca7078709; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:30:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:30:38 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200502141430.j1EEUca7078709@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20050214141324.2835E43D2F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Save the Demon! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:30:41 -0000 mark@markdnet.demon.co.uk wrote: > olli@lurza.secnetix.de wrote: > > AFAIK, one of the main points of that logo competition is > > to do away with anything that could be interpreted in an > > religious way. Therefore an image of an Angel would be > > completely inappropriate. (Why feminine anyway? Beastie > > has no specific gender, therefore it would be best to not > > bias the logo one way or the other.) > > I'm not seeing a problem here. Beastie is not a religious icon, > not is it intended to be one. Right -- but it looks like one. And every now and then there are people who are offended by it because of their religious bias. > FreeBSD has no connection (afaik) with any religion. Right. > What we do have is a well recognised and accepted logo which > has been around for a long time. Changing it because a couple > of people have misinterpreted it strikes me as foot shooting. Nobody is proposing to change the existing mascot, so there is no foot shooting. This competition is about creating a new logo, not changing the existing mascot. Putting yet another religous creature (such as an angel) into the newly designed logo would make matters worse -- _That_ would qualify as foot shooting. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "To this day, many C programmers believe that 'strong typing' just means pounding extra hard on the keyboard." -- Peter van der Linden