From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 23:52:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFBB16A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 23:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A70343FA3 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 23:52:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-17-158.nc.rr.com [66.57.17.158])h876jj0Q009958; Sun, 7 Sep 2003 02:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.2.1.4] (vpn-client-4.marcuscom.com [10.2.1.4]) h876p2ff013827; Sun, 7 Sep 2003 02:51:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Sean McNeil In-Reply-To: <1062894039.1108.17.camel@blue.mcneil.com> References: <1062894039.1108.17.camel@blue.mcneil.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-kvbsylNS+8VIw3XqCFOK" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1062917573.748.6.camel@gyros> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 02:52:54 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_XIMIAN autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnome 2.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 06:52:57 -0000 --=-kvbsylNS+8VIw3XqCFOK Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 20:20, Sean McNeil wrote: > Gnomers, >=20 > I've had the opportunity to go through and do the marcusmerge bringing > my system up to Gnome 2.4 RC1. While I see many improvements, there are > some things that I had difficulty with. I was interested in other > feedback, but I am not on the mailing list. I will look at the archives > to see how the discussion goes. >=20 > If there is a gnome discussion group this should be posted to, please > feel free to repost this message or send me the more appropriate place > and I will do so. This is generally the list. You can also join #freebsd-gnome on FreeNode to discuss GNOME on FreeBSD. >=20 > Things I am really going to miss: >=20 > 1. Being able to set up the window manager to raise a window when I > click on it. I had this behavior before, but the key shortcuts don't > allow for mouse button events and there isn't a configure for Metacity > anymore that I saw. This is no longer possible. You will only be able to raise windows by clicking on their title bars. I asked Havoc about this, and he said no matter which route he chooses, he will always have people complaining.=20 I'm a big fan of the current Metacity behavior, but the new focus method actually does help fix some weird browser bugs. >=20 > 2. I now have to double-click on the email panel applet to start up > evolution :( I liked only having to single click. That can probably be fixed if you want to hack the code. I personally never used this feature. I always launched Evo from a menu launcher. >=20 > 3. A long time ago I use to be able to have my panel not stay on top > all the time. I don't see this as an option anymore. You can always set the panel for auto-hide. One thing I really like about GNOME 2.4 is now all panels are treated the same. That is, the top panel is now much more flexible. >=20 > Things broken for me: >=20 > 1. When I drag-n-drop a directory into burn:// it doesn't show until I > do a refresh. While I haven't really looked at this much since I don't have a burner on either of my GNOME 2.4 machines, I think it should work, but requires gnomevfs2 to be built with FAM support. >=20 > 2. I had a tough time with gdm. It isn't compatible with the previous > version and I had to update the gdm.conf and copy a Default.sample file > to Default (IIRC). Yep. This is expected. There were a lot of gdm changes. I always recommend people use the default gdm.conf after every release, then port their changes back. >=20 > 3. After logging in and out a few times I seem to have run out of > pseudo terminals. New gnome-terminal windows wouldn't show a bash > prompt. I also had several bash instances running even after logging > out. When I log in I get 2 windows with 4 bash commands running as tabs > in each. I wouldn't think this is excessive. This may be a bash problem on FreeBSD. I haven't seen this with tcsh.=20 Have you tried changing shells? Joe >=20 > The things I like best so far: >=20 > 1. nautilus-cd-burner. Nice and simple. Great. >=20 > Cheers, > Sean >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-gnome > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-gnome-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-kvbsylNS+8VIw3XqCFOK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA/WtXFb2iPiv4Uz4cRArpGAKCjpjfRCLtfn2vE5NvBOLyHotmsdACdGJHg Rk+7LCsa+Kcia6QG6Z4KJzY= =qZAi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-kvbsylNS+8VIw3XqCFOK--