From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 13:28:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC1C16A468 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ade@lovett.com) Received: from mail.lovett.com (foo.lovett.com [67.134.38.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C460A13C4EA for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ade@lovett.com) Received: from inferno.canal.lovett.com ([172.16.32.23]:62480) by mail.lovett.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1J2o6j-0004a4-Vk; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:28:09 -0800 Message-Id: <2BC5322B-368E-4C2F-AC8A-6088FD381793@FreeBSD.org> From: Ade Lovett To: David Southwell In-Reply-To: <200712130232.27944.david@vizion2000.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:28:09 -0800 References: <200712130232.27944.david@vizion2000.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) Sender: ade@lovett.com Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: results of ports re-engineering survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:28:11 -0000 On Dec 13, 2007, at 02:32 , David Southwell wrote: > I suspect antagonistic responsesfrom some people are more about > wounded pride > (i.e - astonishment why should anyone propose to improve on the > procedures, > systems and engineering to which they contributed in the past!) You suspect wrong. Sorry. Indeed, I already said as much about the current system, and it's scalability. > Sp please either make contributions that are intended to help the > current > process rather than boring everyone with negativity Since this is a WIP, how about taking it to a specific mailing list that is not related to how things currently operate. I read ports@ for one reason, and one reason only, to keep abreast of potential issues with the *current* system. It's not hard to set up a mailing list. Hell, I'll even host it myself if that's what it takes, but as things stand, ports@ (or, indeed, any other exising mailing list) is not the right place to be discussing concepts that are, fluid. -aDe