From owner-cvs-all Fri Jun 16 7:13:47 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C293E37BEDC; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:13:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C3EBA1C5C; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:13:41 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Alfred Perlstein , Nate Williams , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern uipc_socket.c uipc_socket2.c src/sys/sys socket.h Message-ID: <20000616101341.Y8523@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <200006151818.LAA31278@freefall.freebsd.org> <200006151845.MAA25472@nomad.yogotech.com> <20000615120807.M18462@fw.wintelcom.net> <39499E16.9FE731F7@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <39499E16.9FE731F7@newsguy.com>; from dcs@newsguy.com on Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 12:25:10PM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 12:25:10PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > HTTP belongs to userland. We should no more add support to HTTP than we > should add support to the dozens of different userland streaming > protocols in existance. If natd had been written in the kernel (which no-one would have objected to), you would have the exact above scenario. We can pout about how "wrong" breaking the traditional layering scheme and we can watch other systems peform (you know, real world, the things that the users care about) or we can all live in an academic world where we are so blinded that we think that traditional == right. > Alas, I pretty much ignored all that hackers discussion on the grounds > that nothing called "kblob" could possibly be important. Your loss for judgeing. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message