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From: Daniel Braniss <danny@cs.huji.ac.il>
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> Hartmut Brandt wrote:
> > On Fri, 3 May 2013, Daniel Braniss wrote:
> > 
> > DB>I don't know about current, but on 9.1-stable, the nfsstat -m only
> > works
> > DB>for root! nfsstat can be run by anybody.
> > 
> > Same for current. It silently prints nothing. Took me some time
> > to figure out I should try as root...
> > 
> Yea, I suppose it should either be opened up to non-root (see previous post)
> or "only works as root" should be documented.
> 
I have no strong opinios either, though security by obscurity was never my 
favorit.
It should at least have said 'permition denied'.

cheers,
	danny

> rick
> 
> > harti