From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 11:04:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC3E16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:04:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A995E43D53 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:04:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBDB7Yb00140; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:07:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Yance Kowara" , Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:04:21 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20051213024638.3696.qmail@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:04:27 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Yance Kowara >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 6:47 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections > > > >> >>Hmmmmmm, what about putting zebra into the picture >> ... >> >>a solution or chaos? >> > >> > What feature in Zebra exactly do you think will >help in this scenario? >> > >> > Ted >> > _______________________________________________ > >I am just crawling in the dark here... > Please, this is like trying to learn how to do open heart surgery via e-mail. It is somewhat insulting that you think that network administrators have such boneheaded jobs that you could actually learn networking fundamentals from posts on a mailing list. Please, do youself a favor and spend the next 3-6 months immersed in a number of networking and routing fundamentals books. >If the upstream packets can be send through a >supposedly "working" load-balancing FreeBSD router, You can't load balance in this way, there is no such thing as a working freebsd router in this kind of configuration. >it >will only handle upstream packets.., i.e. the router >may be able to balance the upstream packets... > No, it cannot - because it is still sourcing them from two different IP addresses. >Now, who's going to handle the routing and balancing >the downstream packet? Would Zebra has such feature > Are both ISP's running Zebra? >I am sorry if it makes not much sense. You need to learn about networking fundamentals, your understanding of how networking operates is simply incorrect, that is why it's not making sense. Actually the funny thing is that I understand what your asking, probably better than you do. And I keep telling you that it's impossible and why, and you are not grokking the answers I'm giving you. I just cannot make it any more basic as to why this will not work. >I am just >trying to figure out what I can do to optimise two >ADSL uplinks. > Internet Cafe's are not known for generating large amounts of upstream traffic. I doubt that upstream traffic is bottlenecked. >If there are other things I can do to optimise it, >please give me some pointers. Read some books on networking before trying to play network administrator, please. Ted