From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 21 01:54:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870FD16A4DD for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:54:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mag@intron.ac) Received: from mail.oreilly.com.cn (oreilly.com.cn [211.154.219.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4566A43D46 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:54:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mag@intron.ac) Received: from origin.intron.ac ([210.51.165.237]) (AUTH: LOGIN intron) by mail.oreilly.com.cn with esmtp; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:54:11 +0800 id 000C9459.44C033C4.0000EE2B References: <200607201318.k6KDIOKH092991@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200607201318.k6KDIOKH092991@lurza.secnetix.de> From: "Intron" To: Oliver Fromme Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:42:40 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1153446852.80350@origin.intron.ac> Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Improving FreeBSD's hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:54:20 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > Intron wrote: > > Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > Getting action from vendors has been unsuccessful in the past - the > > > Free OS community (Linux + *BSD) is too small for vendors to be > > > concerned about. > > > > I cannot agree with you. Linux has achieved much more support from > > hardware vendors than FreeBSD. > > Interestingly, when I looked for a new laptop last year, > it turned out that the number of laptops that ran FreeBSD > was greater than those that ran Linux. (I finally chose > a Samsung X20-XVM 1600-V, which works perfectly fine for > me except for the built-in winmodem [which I don't need > anyway]. A Linux live CD didn't even boot on it.) Have a look at http://linmodems.org/ before your assertion. How many modems listed on that website are support by FreeBSD? Most of them are installed in laptops and nested on PCI bus. > > > You may look in Linux source code. > > In linux-2.6.x/drivers/, there are so many hardware drivers. > > Yeah, most of which are crap. :-) The raw number of > drivers says _nothing_ about hardware vendors' support. This is a problem of code quality. But at least Linux community has so many volunteers/vendors to write drivers. > > > > I suspect the best solution is to publicise configurations that are > > > known to work and what problems exist with other configurations. > > I tend to agree with Peter here. By the way, a very good > resource for hardware support information is the search > facility at Rambler: http://freebsd.rambler.ru/ > > Best regards > Oliver > > PS: I think this thread might be inappropriate for the > -hackers list. How about moving it to either -hardware > or -chat? (I watch them all, so either is fine with me.) > > -- > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing > Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd > Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author > and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. > > "Documentation is like sex; when it's good, it's very, very good, > and when it's bad, it's better than nothing." > -- Dick Brandon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From Beijing, China