From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 2 11:27:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A494037B401 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:27:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E94E243FBF for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:27:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willybaby12345@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO user) (willybaby12345@64.58.141.114 with login) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Apr 2003 19:27:11 -0000 Message-ID: <024401c310d8$712c39d0$728d3a40@user> From: "William Ashworth" To: References: <20030402154658.11242.qmail@web20302.mail.yahoo.com> <200304021037.13970.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> <20030402205304.11296.2@wonderland.1049306324.fake> <200304021124.07465.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: Johnson David Subject: Re: Web Browsers. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Ashworth List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 19:27:14 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 11:27:07 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 19:27:14 -0000 All, Couldn't you just install linux binary compatability to accomplish this? Thanks, William Ashworth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnson David" To: "Charlie Clark" Cc: "FreeBSD-Newbies" Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Web Browsers. > On Wednesday 02 April 2003 10:53 am, Charlie Clark wrote: > > > so the Linux plug-in will run on BSD if Linux compatability is > > enabled? How dependent is this on XFree86 and any window manager on > > top of this: I guess the runtime is quite easy to encapsulate and the > > rest should be calls to XFree86 / KDE, aren't they? > > You need Linux compatibility enabled. But because of the way plugins > work, you need both the linux plugin AND a linux browser. But you don't > need linux X or a linux window manager. > > > Hold your horses: Flash was developed at a time when there was no > > alternative for that kind of content (AWT / Swing was and still is > > IMHO a joke and also just as proprietary) and Flash has its uses just > > like PDF from Adobe does. > > The difference between Flash and PDF is that PDF is a standard. I do not > need any permission from Adobe to create PDF files. I can use > Ghostscript instead. I can use Ghostview, KGhostview, xpdf, or a > million other applications to view PDF files. But with Flash I am > dependent upon Macromedia for both creation and access. I can create a > PDF document with the complete knowledge that ALL current and future > operating systems will be able to access it. > > I am not requesting that Macromedia make a FreeBSD plugin of flash. > Instead I am requesting that they either make flash a standard by > publishing complete specs, or stop pretending that it is a standard. > > > While it would be nice for Macromedia to > > maintain a BSD-Flash player I can understand why they don't. On BeOS > > a third party, the General Coffee Company developed and released > > their own player so this should be possible on BSD. > > There is ongoing work to create an open source flash player. But without > complete specs on the format, it is very difficult. I strongly suspect > that General Coffee Company had to pay Macromedia some money in order > to write their BeOS player. > > David > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >