From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 30 21:15:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E8616A477; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 21:15:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36FB43D60; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 21:15:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k3ULFHhv040052; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:15:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k3ULFHTd011988; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:15:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k3ULFHqA011987; Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:15:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:15:17 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Iantcho Vassilev Message-ID: <20060430211517.GA11971@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <18e02bd30604301409g2691e0cbvce0bbb8e5c5e56b2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18e02bd30604301409g2691e0cbvce0bbb8e5c5e56b2@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 21:15:33 -0000 On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 12:09:29AM +0300, Iantcho Vassilev wrote.. > Hello guys, > > > in bsdnews.com i found this link http://kerneltrap.org/node/6506 and > particulary this: > > "I claim that Mach people (and apparently FreeBSD) are incompetent idiots. > Playing games with VM is bad. memory copies are _also_ bad, but quite > frankly, memory copies often have _less_ downside than VM games, and bigger > caches will only continue to drive that point home." > > What do you think about it? That you are a bit late in discovering this one ;) Enough time has been wasted on it, at least on the project-internal lists, so please let it rest. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org