From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 6 16:06:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A85016A418 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 16:06:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A76D13C491 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 16:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so818279wra for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:06:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WVV0fIOJMdDIR8oLUrfPMnE6GmJvvynuMFN/Q+i4Ijk=; b=FnaOpNsUFb9ulWnOwxYywFCTwCHzA3UJ6Q72Q1z3OgczfIslbtKYLfhzQPTTh6bxrDllHG1l0XK4S3GTnvWbPYimhvfm17viNNdeLi7s22ODEmAbqjd+/hd6exZ98X3bl516/XSLDrnuKQQ7hIP5rCSz++BT4E89oCP5JftGOa8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QKOSf1fXbGd39LHayhn3mRvEGvn8QSJsYAZ5tjtwskPVvlYnls4hDSWkNyu2ffQJZs0/Cr6YWbiFsBkvthQ6ieLFhcQ2FZuTelmi/46DkWv/jetpYi2PgeLv9hz/XMiFRP468ZC2LLtD8zGPr93mEwWnBQ3u7EmFmNSwdzOWY2Q= Received: by 10.90.69.8 with SMTP id r8mr4360246aga.1194365181587; Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:06:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v26sm11310604ele.2007.11.06.08.06.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:06:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <473090FA.3010801@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:06:18 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <20071105135017.76a2c48a@meijome.net> <20071105070952.50ba2f37@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <000c01c81f93$344c2c40$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> <472EEDAD.4060409@gmail.com> <472F6AE2.8080608@gmail.com> <20071106081625.GC46733@osiris.chen.org.nz> <4730852A.3050602@gmail.com> <20071106154552.GA67116@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20071106154552.GA67116@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: James , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jonathan Chen Subject: Re: portupgrade questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:06:28 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 10:15:54AM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > > >>> I really should rephrase what I said, because you're both right and I knew >>> you were right. >>> >>> *I* can't mix packages and ports, because *I* can't be bothered keeping >>> track of things. >>> >>> >> Like everything in UNIX there are several ways: >> >> 1. The default (simplest way) >> 2. The simple but manual way >> 3. And the "right" but insanely complex way >> > > It may seem like that sometimes. But, most often, the right way > is also the simplest way. > > >> Has anyone heard of KISS??!?!?!?!? >> > > Yes. The problem is that so many people put all their emphasis > on the last 'S' which doesn't help anybody. > The last S implies the lowest maintance method which just so happens to always be the first one listed above... for example out of the godizillon kernel settings that might marginally improve performence the only one I set in 8-current is IPI_PREEMPTION (as well as removing the debug options).... surely this is simpler then fiddling with indivual settings and/or sysctl's -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com