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Date:      Sat, 29 Jun 2024 17:38:33 +0200
From:      Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
To:        Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>
Cc:        Connor Cooper <connor.a.cooper@gmail.com>, freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: OS Images(Linux/etc) in ports tree
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This could be the project that you are interested in :

https://github.com/quickemu-project/quickemu

In your case,it could be called quick bhyve. So let's get started. I'm also
interested in collaborating.

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 5:32 PM Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 5:10 PM Connor Cooper <connor.a.cooper@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hello, I am presenting you all with an idea for the bhyve project that
> involves the ports tree. I've noticed that a lot of VPS providers have
> their own images available for various operating systems and it's
> relatively easy to use compared to even standalone virtualization systems.
> Considering the existence of FreeBSD and bhyve I also just noticed that the
> ports tree could be a good potential place for bhyve users to access those
> images. What is the input of the FreeBSD virtualization community regarding
> this idea? Thanks.
>
> Some helper scripts, example configurations, maybe some image
> downloader program (with easy to use terminal ui), in the ports, yes
> :-)
>
> But we do not really want to host other projects/os releases in the
> ports.. its not meant for that.. ports are just easy to use generic
> automation scripts.. port tree is already pretty big now imagine how
> many more GB would people with no interest in bhyve would have to get
> over sometimes low bandwidth link :-)
>
> You may want to create a downloader program (preferably with terminal
> ui maybe some gui) that would show list of all known operating systems
> and their releases just to quickly get the ISO/VM image without even
> opening a web browser. Such program should be platform independent so
> it would be also helpful on other os. That program would be a good
> candidate for a port.
>
> If you think of generic prebuilt bhyve images for various OS this also
> could be useful. Some OS already provide VM images - are these
> compatible with bhyve? Maybe those images could be easily converted?
> Some OS would not even allow such prebuilt images distribution
> (probably the commercial license restricted ones such as windows or
> macos). Maybe this could be solved with a downloader/converter
> program. Anyhow, various OS VM images would require a dedicated
> repository but not a ports tree :-)
>
> Thanks for sharing your idea! Maybe this will result with a new useful
> tool out there :-)
>
> --
> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>
>

-- 
Mario.

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<div dir="ltr"><div>This could be the project that you are interested in :<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/quickemu-project/quickemu">https://github.com/quickemu-project/quickemu</a></div><div><br></div><div>In your case,it could be called quick bhyve. So let&#39;s get started. I&#39;m also interested in collaborating.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 5:32 PM Tomek CEDRO &lt;<a href="mailto:tomek@cedro.info">tomek@cedro.info</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 5:10 PM Connor Cooper &lt;<a href="mailto:connor.a.cooper@gmail.com" target="_blank">connor.a.cooper@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Hello, I am presenting you all with an idea for the bhyve project that involves the ports tree. I&#39;ve noticed that a lot of VPS providers have their own images available for various operating systems and it&#39;s relatively easy to use compared to even standalone virtualization systems. Considering the existence of FreeBSD and bhyve I also just noticed that the ports tree could be a good potential place for bhyve users to access those images. What is the input of the FreeBSD virtualization community regarding this idea? Thanks.<br>
<br>
Some helper scripts, example configurations, maybe some image<br>
downloader program (with easy to use terminal ui), in the ports, yes<br>
:-)<br>
<br>
But we do not really want to host other projects/os releases in the<br>
ports.. its not meant for that.. ports are just easy to use generic<br>
automation scripts.. port tree is already pretty big now imagine how<br>
many more GB would people with no interest in bhyve would have to get<br>
over sometimes low bandwidth link :-)<br>
<br>
You may want to create a downloader program (preferably with terminal<br>
ui maybe some gui) that would show list of all known operating systems<br>
and their releases just to quickly get the ISO/VM image without even<br>
opening a web browser. Such program should be platform independent so<br>
it would be also helpful on other os. That program would be a good<br>
candidate for a port.<br>
<br>
If you think of generic prebuilt bhyve images for various OS this also<br>
could be useful. Some OS already provide VM images - are these<br>
compatible with bhyve? Maybe those images could be easily converted?<br>
Some OS would not even allow such prebuilt images distribution<br>
(probably the commercial license restricted ones such as windows or<br>
macos). Maybe this could be solved with a downloader/converter<br>
program. Anyhow, various OS VM images would require a dedicated<br>
repository but not a ports tree :-)<br>
<br>
Thanks for sharing your idea! Maybe this will result with a new useful<br>
tool out there :-)<br>
<br>
-- <br>
CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, <a href="http://www.tomek.cedro.info" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.tomek.cedro.info</a><br>;
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Mario.<br></div>
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