From owner-freebsd-current Thu Dec 12 3:35:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2CD37B401 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 03:35:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from excalibur.skynet.be (excalibur.skynet.be [195.238.3.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2204343EC5 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 03:35:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ip-26.shub-internet.org [194.78.144.26] (may be forged)) by excalibur.skynet.be (8.11.6/8.11.6/Skynet-OUT-2.20) with ESMTP id gBCBZAd27500; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:35:10 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3DF7E948.9060508@acm.org> References: <3DF7E948.9060508@acm.org> X-Grok: +++ath X-WebTV-Stationery: Standard; BGColor=black; TextColor=black Reply-By: Wed, 1 Jan 1984 12:34:56 +0100 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:20:52 +0100 To: kientzle@acm.org From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: RC NG, ntp and routed Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 5:41 PM -0800 2002/12/11, Tim Kientzle wrote: > The point of the barrier scripts is to provide > simple dependencies to other scripts. In particular, > NETWORKING should represent a fully-functional > network, including any routing or multicast routing that is > normally used on this network. It does not, in itself, depend > on any filesystems. (It runs no programs itself, so why would it?) Sure it does. In order to do anything, you have to run programs -- right? And where do those programs come from -- a filesystem, right? And what if that filesystem is not local, but mounted via NFS? So, you need a way to bootstrap the early parts of networking before mounting the later filesystems. -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message