From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 24 11:26:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D5216A41A; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:26:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B4913C46E; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:26:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <479875D3.3020801@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:26:11 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras References: <4796C717.9000507@cederstrand.dk> <47972895.4050005@FreeBSD.org> <47986848.7010602@cederstrand.dk> <47987141.3070606@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Performance Tracker project update X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:26:14 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: >> Erik Cederstrand wrote: >>> Ivan Voras wrote: >>>> I have a suggestion to make the graphs more readable: if a long >>>> period was chosen by the user (e.g. > 100 days / plot points), don't >>>> plot points and error bars, plot a simple line through the points. >>>> Also, set all date strings on the X-axis to empty strings except for >>>> the dates on 1/10ths of the interval. >>> Noted. Thanks. >> Actually the error bars are quite important to see what is going on. >> Some of the metrics are very (too) noisy and if you only look at the >> data points they sometimes appear to have a signal when they don't. >> Ultimately that just means more data points should be taken per run for >> those metrics, but the error bars are the signal for this. > > Of course they are useful, but do we really need to see them when there > are hundreds of samples plotted 1 pixel apart? (As I've said: keep them > when when the user "zooms in" on an appropriate small number of > samples). But this is an aesthetics-oriented idea, functionality won't > be impaired either way so feel free to ignore it. I think so, yeah. Otherwise I'd waste time zooming in only to find the trends are measurement noise. Kris