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Date:      Mon, 17 Jul 2000 00:04:58 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007170003110.2839-100000@freefall.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <200007170615.IAA05906@grimreaper.grondar.za>

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On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Mark Murray wrote:

> > On the other hand, doing a dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/null gives me
> > infinite "randomness" at 10MB/sec - have the semantics of /dev/random
> > changed?
> 
> Yes; remember that what we have here is Yarrow algorithm; which is an
> algorithm for cryptographically secure PRNG - one whose internal state
> is unguessable, or if compromised folr some reason is self-recovering.
> 
> "Infinite" randomness is possible with this algorithm.

On the other hand, didn't you say that at system boot the RNG is
essentially unseeded, so this is actually a liability because processes
cannot be sure they're getting real randomness.

Kris

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