From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 02:30:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BDF16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:30:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8977643D39 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:30:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so651341rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:30:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=SMRmswBJmstEGY2oq6TehVsHmlVQsRgvYqqxEwp/w2eZipcaKTEzf0NCNHcKK5SkqROKRGAmdeV28yCe+eFErPtPnqO1vNx/lsz9v3iUr7NgIcrU+ZALPzZZiacR49DFtUlFKAmiKE0edXn0B7RpVUITWLUPdbhn6XRbGOh0Uyo= Received: by 10.38.10.48 with SMTP id 48mr3618220rnj; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:30:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d68382805031918304610bbe3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:30:53 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: Charles Swiger In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> <5d683828050319160171ca7627@mail.gmail.com> <8d1ffb5ad4233d7ca6499fb2c72c38db@mac.com> <5d6838280503191620387146c6@mail.gmail.com> <5d683828050319174485fb36a@mail.gmail.com> cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:30:54 -0000 I never claimed that it was freebsd users that found it unacceptable. If you'll read my email, instead of just brushing through it, you'll see there isn't a part where I say, this is unacceptable to freebsd users. The fact that someone claims to support freedom of choice, and then removes choice from his users, is just shoking to me, and the fact that you seem to support that is also shocking. The lack of support, and indeed fighting on this subject is so surprising to me. I would think a "Free" operating system would support freedom, but it appears that all freebsd users just want to do away with it instead, to get something that works "good enough" instead of real freedom, more than just freedom of choice. On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:26:21 -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 19, 2005, at 8:44 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: > > So something is only unacceptable if it has been previously talked > > about on a freebsd mailing list? Wow that's one big ego there. If it > > was acceptable, none of this would be happening, but it is. [ ... ] > > You are the one making claims about what FreeBSD users find > unacceptable, at least supposedly. > > The complete lack of evidence you've provided so far to support your > assertion is underwhelming. I don't care if you look at the mailing > lists, Usenet postings, web sites, or anything else that can be > independently confirmed. Your words alone lack credibility. > > -- > -Chuck > >