From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 19 09:18:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A108E10656AA; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF578FC16; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896B91FFC37; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 42C7984559; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:18:47 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "M. Warner Losh" References: <4C6505A4.9060203@FreeBSD.org> <4C6C1CFE.6060900@FreeBSD.org> <20100818.121635.431102609571763034.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:18:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20100818.121635.431102609571763034.imp@bsdimp.com> (M. Warner Losh's message of "Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:16:35 -0600 (MDT)") Message-ID: <86bp8zdkp4.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: dimitry@andric.com, dougb@freebsd.org, delphij@freebsd.org, gabor@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Official request: Please make GNU grep the default X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:18:48 -0000 "M. Warner Losh" writes: > So making it default turned out well in the end. Sure, there was pain > involved (but this is current), but making it default exposed the pain > that would otherwise have gone unnoticed. The big hue and cry, while > excessive at times, did result in people actually running the > profiling tools which pointed to the buffering as the number one thing > to fix. There is a lesson here: people who are unsatisfied with the performance of ${TOOL} should profile it before they start a flamefest on -current. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no