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Date:      Fri, 23 May 1997 15:23:41 +0100 (BST)
From:      Mr M P Searle <csubl@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
To:        neswold@fnal.gov
Cc:        simat@enta.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: PPP Dialin, burst traffic
Message-ID:  <14513.199705231423@bourbon.csv.warwick.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970521091043.19977B-100000@aduxb.fnal.gov> from Richard Neswold at "May 21, 97 09:22:24 am"

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> On Wed, 21 May 1997, Simon N Atkin wrote:
> 
> > Hi, setup my freebsd bsd box at the weekend for dialin with PPP running
> > across it,
> > 
> > It's much faster than using a router (obviously)  But when downloading a
> > file from the server that the modem is connected to I only get burst
> > pulses of traffic. 
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Just in case anyone doesn't understand burst pulse traffic, then it is
> > that the modem RX light doesn't stay on all the time while transfering ,
> > i.e loss of bandwidth. 
> 
> I've used both SLIP and PPP under FreeBSD, OS/2, Linux, and Win95. I've
> *never* seen a continuous stream of data under any of these implementations.
> I always assumed it was due to TCP/IP handshaking and how loaded each
> machine is. If you're downloading off the Internet, you also have to worry
> about every machine that forwards your packets and the handshaking needed
> every step of the way.
> 
> If I need to download a large file as quickly as possible, I'll dial in to
> my shell acount using 'minicom' and grab the file with ZMODEM. That's when I
> see continuous data being sent.
> 

I've seen something very close to a continuous stream using SLIP on an Acorn.
(I'm using the same way as you - looking at the RX light.) The transfer rate
is maybe a little less than with Zmodem, but it's a compressing modem so it's
hard to tell. Of course, the overhead of both TCP/IP and Zmodem don't show
up on this. (although you can get some idea by looking at the transmit light.)
Maybe it's your ISP? (I'm on Demon Internet.)

I do see the occasional short flicker off, presumably a noisy line, and
sometimes it will stop for maybe 30 seconds (a bug in the SLIP software I
think, as I didn't get it before I 'upgraded'.), but I've seen maybe 30
seconds of continuous transfer. It doesn't seem to make much difference where
the transfer is from - it's the modem (14k4) that's the bottleneck in most
cases, although I do sometimes get pulsed traffic that sounds like what
you have - usually when the site is a long way away and/or it's a slow time.





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