From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Dec 4 05:20:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29474 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 05:20:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shale.csir.co.za (shale.csir.co.za [146.64.46.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29419; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 05:19:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reg@shale.csir.co.za) Received: (from reg@localhost) by shale.csir.co.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA62901; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:19:23 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from reg) Message-ID: <19981204151923.A255@shale.csir.co.za> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:19:23 +0200 From: Jeremy Lea To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Crypto policy [was: Can we just come to a decision on IPv6 and IPSec?] References: <27487.912737451@coconut.itojun.org> <9812032354.ZM6453@beatrice.rutgers.edu> <3667D66F.B561157@pipeline.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <3667D66F.B561157@pipeline.ch>; from Andre Oppermann on Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 01:32:47PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, [redirected to -chat, bcc'd to -hackers] On Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 01:32:47PM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: > Allen Smith wrote: > > > > I believe IPsec just ran into a larger problem... parts excerpted for > > fair use. The Wassenaar countries include the home countries of all > > the IPsec participants, so far as I know. > If this would ever be an issue then I would be able to give bandwidth > and rack space for a FreeBSD cryto repository box (like internat. > freebsd.org today). I doubt there will be problems with internat. South Africa is not part of this, and is not likely to be, considering our good diplomatic relations with China, Libya, Cuba and sometimes even Iraq. To the South African's on the list: Anyone have any ideas on the best way to get encryption enshrined as a constitutional right? Better to be proactive than reactive. I'm sure some argument about the need for individuals to protect themselves, to prevent an recurrence of the horrors of the past, would go some way. Also might be a good idea to begin fighting for making key escrow by foreign countries illegal. I don't want Verisign, or whoever, to ever be able to give my secret keys to the US government. Regards, -Jeremy -- | "Come home my prodigal son, come home and lets be one, --+-- don't want to see you cry, don't make me tell you why, | you've lived in a house with me, my blood has set you free, | in the world you'll surely die, nothing else will satisfy." -MIC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message