From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 14 16:10:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1977937B401 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 16:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF6943F85 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 16:10:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mj001@rogers.com) Received: from rogers.com ([24.101.253.54]) by fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.comESMTP <20030514231020.BVSI4557.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rogers.com>; Wed, 14 May 2003 19:10:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3EC2CCD8.5060500@rogers.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 19:10:16 -0400 From: mj001 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20021005 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesus Cash References: <20030514152545.21062.qmail@web40402.mail.yahoo.com> <3EC285B2.3000305@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.101.253.54] using ID at Wed, 14 May 2003 19:10:20 -0400 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yahoo!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 23:10:23 -0000 Jesus Cash wrote: > Mandrake was my Linux as choice as well. I totally see what you mean. > These major distros are getting to be just like MS. Proprietary and > bloated. I've mentioned this before, but I tried install Red Hat 9 on my > dinky laptop, thinking I could just strip it down to basics. Nope, just > said your computer is crap and can't install Red Hat 9. Once I can get > some working floppies (mine all crapped out when I carried them > unprotected in my laptop bag) I'll install FreeBSD on it. Maybe I'll try > my hand at loading OS/2 (I'm a little worried about trying to run > XFree86 or any desktop on it). > > -B > > RexFelis wrote: > >> Here's another example why I use FreeBSD now... >> >> Why does it have to be such a hassle for me to >> install a single program that I need under Linux? >> I was trying to make custom recorded audio CDs >> (not music CDs), like I used to in Win98 using >> Voyetra's software. I looked around and found >> Audacity. It looked good... but Linux Mandrake >> made me crazy with dependencies. FreeBSD just >> downloaded and installed them. 3.5 days of >> frustration in Linux, 35 minutes of surfing the >> web while the program was downloaded, patched, >> custom compiled and installed on FreeBSD. >> >> Linux seems to be heading in a couple of >> directions I disagree with. Dependency hell >> whenever you try to do what YOU want to do is one >> of them. (Mandrake works great as long as you >> only use Mandrake-prepackaged software.) The >> other is the growing commercialization of the >> major distros. I don't want shareholders telling >> me how to run my computer! >> >> I agree with JC, FreeBSD is fun. I was having >> fun with Linux, until I realized what fun really >> is. :) Freedom is always more fun. >> >> Shannon >> >> --- Jesus Cash wrote: >> >> >>> I'm pretty much in the same boat as Shannon >>> here. Maybe not as advanced in Linux, but there was just something in >>> Linux >>> that I felt was off. I've been telling people I've never said I love >>> an OS before, but I love FreeBSD. >>> >>> As for learning curve? What learning curve? :P >>> I pretty much just threw myself in and have been figuring stuff out for >>> myself. Most importantly, it's been a FUN learning experience. >>> >>> -B >>> >>> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. >> http://search.yahoo.com >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > How big is your laptop? I used to run FreeBSD and X-Windows (but not KDE or GNOME) on a 486DX33 (non-laptop) with 20MB. It worked, but was somewhat slow. A Pentium 120 with 48 MB runs KDE 3.0 quite well. But a NEC Versa LX laptop with 64 MB is impossibly slow - I suspect it may be the disk speed.