From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 19 05:52:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA01426 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 05:52:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp2.jps.net (smtp2.jps.net [209.63.224.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA01421 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 05:52:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hpollard@jps.net) Received: from jps.net (208-235-93-80.jfk.jps.net [208.235.93.80]) by smtp2.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18720; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 05:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <362B35E0.F792DD4C@jps.net> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:51:45 -0400 From: Herbert M Pollard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win98; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake CC: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrading notes References: <19981019180600.39400@welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just read your post about upgrading to the new release. I think your advice is very common since based; but as at time people need reminding. IMHO you have my vote for posting this notice with each new release. You don't know how many butts you saved with this wake up call. Herb Pollard Sue Blake wrote: > You'll be hearing that a new version of FreeBSD is coming out. > Here's some cautionary notes, presented with no authority other than > that I was an observant newbie here when the last version came out, > and the previous, and the version before that, and I hate the smell > of burning flesh > > My suggestions for newbies are: > > - Don't try to be first kid on the block with a new version. > Let the expert and the gullible fall into any holes first. > - Don't bother upgrading unless you have a reason to. Many people > are running older versions just fine (2.2.2 here). > - Back up well before upgrading, especially /etc. > - Read all of the available documentation for the new release. > There's a lot of *.TXT files on the FTP site, all worthwhile. > - Search the freebsd-questions archives for other people's > upgrading problems and their solutions. > - There are a few different approaches to upgrading. If you don't > know what they are, check out the handbook or ask FreeBSD-questions > if you're still stuck. > - Upgrading FreeBSD is not an "upgrade" in the microsoft sense. > Expect a bit of careful manual work and heaps of reading. > - No, you can't just upgrade the kernel!! Linux is a kernel with add-on > operating system bits (the distribution); FreeBSD is an integrated > system that won't work piecemeal. Upgrade kernel and binaries > together, by following the instructions. > - Generally newbies will be running a FreeBSD-RELEASE version, > never -CURRENT and almost never -STABLE. The last two have > their own mailing lists and list membership is a prerequisite. > We don't deal with them here, or any other place. See handbook. > - If you don't like being told not to take risks, that's fine. > Other newbies have businesses that depend on their systems > so allow them to choose too. Try not to confuse them with reports > of your risky experiments. > - If you have any problems at any stage, *always* send them > to freebsd-questions (not here). The people in -questions > will give you reliable answers (usually), your questions > and their answers will be archived where the next person can > find them before it's too late, and the people who care about > what problems people have (developers, doc writers) will see them. > > Do these suggestions sound useful? reasonable? Got anything to add? > Should we repost something like this when each new version comes out? > Last time I tried something like this I got a huge stack of rotten > fruit hurled at me, and it's making fine compost now. > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message