From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 17:20:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDA716A4CE for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7592A43FE5 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:20:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02 ([157.226.230.209]:2276 helo=mvaexch02.acuson.com) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AF1U0-0004tM-4E; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:20:16 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:16:22 -0800 Received: from dhcp-46-145.acuson.com ([157.226.46.145]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id VDNM7NVS; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:15:30 -0800 From: Johnson David To: ".VWV." , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Organization: Siemens Medical Systems Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:18:42 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <003301c39e81$4d0f8b60$fdaeabd4@workstation> In-Reply-To: <003301c39e81$4d0f8b60$fdaeabd4@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200310291718.42829.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1AF1U0-0004tM-4E*U9QcUNZTTmU* Subject: Re: stop the desktops' upgrades X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:20:23 -0000 On Wednesday 29 October 2003 05:01 pm, .VWV. wrote: > Otherwise, in my opinion it is necessary to stop this unuseful > adoption of the endless upgrades of KDE and GNOME monsters. The adoption of KDE or GNOME is purely voluntary. You do not need to use either one. They are not standard in FreeBSD as they are in some other free systems. The choice is yours. > They still are much better than WIN. > There is no stable standard for applications' developers, under such > environments. As you say, they are still much better than Windows. I haven't done any GTK development, but the Qt interface has been very stable since 2.0. When 3.0 came out, a few trivial changes to my code were necessary, taking me about a half hour to make. Since then I haven't had to make any changes at all. In the meantime, I have been given ample notice of the deprecated functions. In some cases these notices have been around since 2.0. David