From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 4 22:49:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6CF6F50; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 22:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BCE169E; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 22:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319203EB43; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 22:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s14MnO6F060986; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 22:49:25 GMT (envelope-from phk@freebsd.org) To: =?UTF-8?B?IkMuIEJlcmdzdHLDtm0i?= Subject: Re: opteron a1100 arm In-reply-to: <52F16BA4.4060202@pathscale.com> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <1391538649.19169.79261269.3C5F49D1@webmail.messagingengine.com> <493DEB39-C4B4-409E-B8B2-B1B11E013754@netgate.com> <20140204223528.GF23872@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <52F16BA4.4060202@pathscale.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 22:49:24 +0000 Message-ID: <60985.1391554164@critter.freebsd.dk> Cc: Thomas Zander , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin , Jim Thompson X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 22:49:28 -0000 In message <52F16BA4.4060202@pathscale.com>, =?UTF-8?B?IkMuIEJlcmdzdHLDtm0i?= w rites: > Think about how much power interconnects takes, PCIe and everything else.. Not to mention the raw savings of avoiding all the crap that has been nailed inexpertly onto the X86 platform over the years... Did you notice that "X86 arduino" Intel just launched ? Does anybody but me cringe at the thought of an Arduino with UEFI, ACPI, microcode updates and SMM ticking away in the background to make sure it doesn't run too hot ? If ARM and AMD are smart, an ARM64 machine will have the OS loaded and handed over to in a matter of seconds rather than minutes, and that alone would make a lot of people love them. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.