From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 25 13:49:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B5037B401 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DF944003 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:49:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5PKmeKJ058667; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:48:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)h5PKmesn058664; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:48:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:48:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Socketd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.1-Release freezes X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:49:03 -0000 Just FYI, there are actually some "legitimate" situations in which processes will appear to hang when using MAC. For example, if you have MLS or Biba turned on, and revocation support specifically enabled (not the default), you can see interactive processes appear to hang when they are interacting with a terminal that is not authorized to receive its output. For example, if you change the process labels so that they have access to top secret data, but your terminal label is set so it is only cleared for confidential data, the process can't write to the terminal. Given that you don't appear to have any policies loaded, that's presumably not what is going on. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories