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Subject: Re: Release criteria for libkse -> libpthread switch?
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On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 19:39, Robert Watson wrote:
> My leaning is we should throw the switch to libkse sooner rather than
> later to improve exposure, even though it's not quite feature complete. 
> It was basically an accident of timing and intent that we didn't get to
> the rename before 5.2.  For one thing, it will get applications to start
> linking against libpthread sooner.  However, if we're going to throw the
> switch, it would be good to know the features aren't far behind :-). 
> 
> Robert N M Watson             FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects
> robert@fledge.watson.org      Senior Research Scientist, McAfee Research

My only concern with this is that it might cause some sort of delay in
getting to 5-STABLE. I think, as I'm sure most would agree, that
achieving a 5-STABLE is the next major milestone for the project. One
that, from the lists, some think is somewhat overdue.

-- 
Ryan Sommers
ryans@gamersimpact.com